February 07, 2006

I'll Give You a Topic...

Maybe I'm oversimplifying here, but how is demanding that non-Muslims follow Muslim edicts regarding images of Muhammad any different than, say, demanding everyone in the world give up idol-worship. Because Christians, Jews, and Muslims all declare the worship of idols (not Britney Spears, but the worship of an image or object in place of God) to be sinful. Let's all declare Holy War on the Hindus!

And isn't the treatment of Muhammad idolatry? He's just a prophet, but it seems like he's worshipped to me. Same with Jesus, although there is that whole trinity thing that makes him God.

Discuss. I'll be in class.

Posted by Jennifer at February 7, 2006 09:20 AM | TrackBack

I think the difference is, when a TV show airs a scene that most Christians might find sinful (say, maybe, extramarital sex or murder or a homosexual relationship or taking God's name in vain or lieing, etc.) you don't see hundreds of Christians firebombing embassies. I think that's where the real irritation comes from. Any given group of people is offended on any given day. It's the response to that percieved offense that can really define a group of people in the public eye.

Posted by: shank at February 7, 2006 12:18 PM

The major difference is when a public company in the states does something we don't like we can petition the government to put heavy fines on them. If an Arab goes to his government for anything at all they chop off various parts, grind up the bones and make falafel. The only thing they're allowed to do over there to protest is kill UN soldiers and burn down foreign embassies.

Posted by: Jim at February 7, 2006 02:20 PM

Dude. That's what falafel's made from? The bones of the infidels? Allah bless these words!

Posted by: shank at February 7, 2006 02:23 PM

So Christians want to huck a few rocks at Kanye West, but they don't? Because they can just stop buying his records. And they'll get arrested for assault. And he'll probably sue them.

Posted by: Jennifer at February 7, 2006 06:22 PM

And really. It's Kanye West. So who really gives a sh*t?

Posted by: Stephen Macklin at February 7, 2006 07:30 PM

Those people are all nuts. They're love rioting, they love rock throwing, they love hating infidels and they especially love hating the jews.

It's never a bad day to riot over there. It's what they're all about. It's what they do. There is no civil discourse.

The scarey part is when the leader of a country openly says things so outrageous inflamitory and the whole country behind him are cheering and waving rifles in the air.

Evolution came to a grinding halt over there when Mohammad showed up. I know it's not all muslims, but damn, it sure is a shitload of them.

Posted by: Paul at February 8, 2006 11:46 AM

Maybe it's been the history of reaction and treatment of non-believers and infidels that fuels their flames. In the Europe and North America when someone rips a picture of the Pope on SNL people send nasty letters and publicly condemn. Saudi Arabia in the holy city infidels are executed for even entering the city. There is no grey area in their law, there is no room for argument, there is one way.

Posted by: Oorgo at February 8, 2006 01:16 PM

It's exactly what Oorgo said. Islam doesn't leave a lot of room in their religion for anything but the One True Voice, whereas Christians, with our many faiths and a lot of in betweens, are used to gray areas if not exactly welcoming toward them. Islam just needs a reformation, but it's anyone's guess whether or not that will ever happen.

Where's Martin Luther when you need him? Either one, really.

Posted by: stephers at February 8, 2006 03:55 PM

Good points Jennifer et al.
This whole idolatry thing is one major hypocricy. I grew up playing with dolls that I made myself. I made them with popsicle sticks, by tying two together in the shape of a cross, then dressing them up and drawing faces on them. I wasn't allowed to play with dolls because Islam considers it idolatry and every time my mom found the dolls I made she yelled at me and threw them in the garbage, also because they were shaped like a cross.
If you think about it, how many Muslim men are named Mohammed? Why isn't THAT considered idolatry? Every Muslim is supposed to live his life modelled after the life of Mohammed and what he preached, tell me how is that not idolatry. I can name a whole list of things like that, but why bother. Thank goodness the whole world news the truth about political Islam now. Now I hope things will change for the better. We cannot let those religious maniacs in the ME get away with this bullshit forever.

Posted by: Myrtus at February 9, 2006 11:26 AM

I would not say it's that our laws have a gray area because really they don't. It's just that individual rights provide the boundaries of social interaction in politics here whereas in those places, they do not.

In simpler terms: we have rights here and there they don't.

If anything, there is more gray area in the place where you cannot determine what is an is not lawful by any rational principle. I can't hear the "One True Voice" so I would be totally screwed if I lived in a place like that and it's not because my view is excessively wide. Reason is exacting that way whereas faith leaves pretty much anything open to invention eg. burning bushes, talking donkies, the voice of god...

Posted by: Trey Givens at February 10, 2006 07:54 AM